octobre 13, 2009 19 Commentaires
[Note : ceci est le 6e d'une série de 20 conseils qui seront publiés au cours de l'année 2009.]
Pour ceux qui ignorent la méthode la plus rapide pour monter une roue arrière, la voici. Cette méthode, bien que courante, reste méconnue. Monter de droite à gauche tire parti de la particularité des roues arrière pour accélérer le processus. En effet, cette méthode permet de tendre les rayons des roues arrière plus rapidement et plus facilement que ceux des roues avant.
Étape 1 : Commencez par rayonner votre roue normalement. Assurez-vous que chaque écrou de rayon est légèrement desserré, mais serré à la même distance que ses voisins du même côté. Étape 2 : Serrez maintenant uniformément les écrous de rayon côté transmission (droit) jusqu'à ce qu'ils soient bien ajustés. Continuez jusqu'à ce que ce côté soit tendu, environ aux deux tiers de la tension finale. Assurez-vous que les rayons côté gauche restent desserrés.
Vous vous dites peut-être : « La jante est maintenant centrée sur la bride du moyeu droit et n'est pas parfaitement droite. » Oui, mais pas d'inquiétude, c'est exactement ce qu'il faut. La jante va osciller car le système de triangulation n'est pas encore en place. Ouvrez les indicateurs de votre support de centrage pour pouvoir faire tourner la roue. Étape 3 : améliorez la rondeur (faux-rond radial) en serrant et en desserrant UNIQUEMENT les écrous de rayon côté transmission.
Cette étape de réglage de la rondeur est la plus simple qui soit, car vous pouvez totalement ignorer le voile latéral. Il suffit de serrer et desserrer les écrous jusqu'à ce que la jante soit parfaitement ronde (et non parfaitement droite). Procédez par petits ajustements, comme des demi-tours, pour un travail rapide. Une fois la jante parfaitement ronde, nous pouvons passer à l'étape suivante.
À l'étape 4, serrez les rayons côté opposé à la transmission pour éloigner la jante de la cassette, vers l'axe du moyeu. Ignorez complètement les rayons côté transmission. Tout en serrant uniformément les écrous de rayons côté opposé à la transmission, utilisez-les pour centrer la jante. Ce centrer la jante d'un seul côté, sans tenir compte de sa rondeur, est extrêmement rapide. L'astuce consiste à centrer la jante (utilisez un outil de centrage pour mesurer) EN MÊME TEMPS que la tension des rayons côté transmission est optimale. La réussite dépend du serrage effectué côté transmission à l'étape 2. Entraînez-vous avec une combinaison spécifique (jante, moyeu, longueur de rayons) pour faciliter cette étape. Avec le temps, elle deviendra très rapide.
Les avantages sont doubles. Premièrement, le processus est plus rapide car la rondeur est optimisée sans se soucier du voile latéral : deux fois moins de rayons à ajuster et un raisonnement beaucoup plus simple, en 2D. Ensuite, le voile latéral est corrigé sans se préoccuper de la rondeur, offrant le même gain de vitesse. Le deuxième avantage est que les écrous côté transmission se serrent automatiquement. Serrer un écrou à fond demande de l'effort, car il faut lutter contre le filetage et le frottement entre l'écrou et la jante. Cette méthode permet de serrer les écrous côté opposé à la transmission pour obtenir un bon serrage côté transmission, et ces écrous sont deux fois plus faciles à tourner.
Reconnaissez le potentiel et lancez-vous. Avec un peu de pratique, vous ne reviendrez jamais en arrière. J'aimerais qu'on puisse concevoir un raccourci similaire pour les roues avant ou les roues arrière à profil asymétrique (comme sur certains vélos à pignon fixe). Les roues arrière sont moins robustes que les roues avant du fait de leur asymétrie. Mais cela ne signifie pas qu'elles doivent être plus longues à monter. Bien au contraire !
Remarque : comme les jantes en bois sont très flexibles, cette méthode n'est pas idéale. Je continue d'utiliser une méthode de montage avec l'avant pour mes jantes arrière en bois. Et vous ?
novembre 02, 2021
Hi Ric,
Thank you for the article.
I have a question. If at 2/3 tension on DS, and NDS spokes have not been tightened, the wheel is radially true, is there need to tighten the DS spokes before tightening NDS?
I am building my 2nd ever wheel. I initialy built it using the traditional method, and both forms of trueness (side to side, up-down) were acceptable, and rim was correctly dished. However, DS spokes were higher than what the rim manufacturer recommended (1200 N, some DS spokes were 1600N), so I decided to try your method.
novembre 02, 2021
If you are building motor hub wheels this method is a must for rear wheels no matter what size of the rim you work on
novembre 02, 2021
I’ve built only 6 sets of wheels and thought i would try your method,I obviously did something wrong, at the end it was so badly out of shape radially I’m going to start again.
Oh well.
novembre 02, 2021
Ric, thanks for this article. Would this building style be appropriate with a Velocity off-center rim?
novembre 02, 2021
I’m a newbie wheel builder but this just makes so much sense to me, the one question I have is it ok to de-stress the wheel as I go?
novembre 02, 2021
Ric,
Just completed the read wheel using the right to left tip, went so smooth thanks for posting this as it built up quicker and easier then the front did.
You site overall is great thanks for the continued posts.
novembre 02, 2021
I just built my 2nd wheel, which was my first rear wheel using this method.
It was GREAT!
Much quicker and easier than the front I built,
though I did learn from that which helped.
Why can’t this be used for a undished wheel?
Would the spokes need to bring the rim to far over for the loose side to bring it back without excessive tension?
novembre 02, 2021
Just tried this for the first time. Brilliant!!! Thanks for the tip.
By the way I love your website.
novembre 02, 2021
I don’t get it. The tip says to evenly tighten the left side spokes AND use them to true the wheel. But if you use the left side spokes to true the wheel, then by definition you aren’t tightening them evenly. And, if you don’t tighten the left side spokes evenly, won’t that affect the roundness?
novembre 02, 2021
Hello Ric,
Really enjoying your website and style of writing.
Question about when to apply correction of the ‘spoke path’ when using this method. Is it correct to assume do the DS when it’s about 1/2 tight, and when you get around to the NDS, do it at about the same 1/2 final tightness?
Also wondering what is considered ‘loose’ for the NDS side when working roundness out on the DS. My experience once before was a wheel was very wobbly when loose, but became quite far closer to true as it began to get a little snug. Would there be a problem snugging up the NDS to about that point? Or do you truly want them quite loose so they don’t affect roundness (even if the nipples are tightened equally on that side)?
novembre 02, 2021
Ric: Thanks for this excellent tip. I used it on both the front and rear wheels since both has discs and were asymmetrical. I found it far easier and more effective to use this method, and using a tensiometer, was able to figure out 2/3 of the final tension on drive side so that I hit the target once the non-drive side spokes were tightened. Radial truing in particular was much easier using this method.
novembre 02, 2021
When radially truing you say the wheel has to be within 1cm of lateral true in order to radial true, which makes sense. I’m assuming you’re using drive side to laterally true in order to get within 1cm. If the wheel is way out of lateral true, couldn’t that give you uneven final ds spoke tension? Also, when snugging up ds spokes, how many turns are you doing on each spoke at a time? I hope these questions make sense with the way they are worded.
Thanks in advance for your help.
novembre 02, 2021
Question – I’m trying this on a wheel with internal nipples, so it makes it a little hard to see how even the nipples are threaded before before adding tension.
Maybe that’s the problem, but by the time I get to 2/3 of the final tension, it wobbles so bad I can’t measure the roundness easily – any tips?
Stuart
novembre 02, 2021
Wow! I just tried this on a rear wheel build and I am very impressed with the time savings. While I am not a lighting fast builder, it did cut down the amount of time I usually spend making a wheel round and true.
I was taught to build using the lateral, radial, dish technique making adjustments in each of those areas while approaching the optimum tension. While that did enable me to build solid wheels, using this approach to separate the radial, lateral and dish helped me reach a round and true wheel in a fraction of the time it took me in the past.
One thing that was a little different for me was that I don’t think I got the right side to 2/3 of final tension before checking roundness and moving onto the left side. I think it was a little more like 1/2 tension but it seemed to work out okay in the end since I was able to creep up on final tension as well as move the dish over somewhat in unison….and that was a nice surprise.
Thank you Ric for sharing this wonderful process.
Oh yeah, I also whipped up a little hub stand that you made reference to at last year’s USAC Mechanic’s Clinic and it worked out nicely! Lots of new and exciting things to try on my way to wheel guru-ship.
Regards,
Brian Pound
novembre 02, 2021
Dear Sir,
I am currently bogged down trying to dish a front disk wheel. I shall try your advise for the rear wheel for my ’cross bike which is the next campaign.
thank you
novembre 02, 2021
I far prefer this method now. Any time anyone asks how to build a rear wheel, I’m going to teach them this method. Thanks for writing about it!
novembre 02, 2021
yeah me too. Find this works really well on 26" and deep section road rims where spoke tension can be a little on the high side without compromising the rim. With light weight box section rims, i find that the right side tension must be spot on before you start to bring the rim to the left otherwise you'll end up with either an undertensioned wheel or possibly a taco.
novembre 02, 2021
Okay, I never knew this, and have started doing it, and it's just positively brilliant. Thanks for sharing this, my wheel builds are not only faster, but the end quality is better now.
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Harry Fox
novembre 02, 2021
Hi Ric,
Love this tip, it worked brilliantly on an open pro last year.
However, I followed it to the letter with an A719 just now and couldn’t get it dished right, the tensions came up beautifully and well distributed but still about 4mm off perfect dish. Adding tension would have skewed the DS/NDS ratio and overtensioned DS.
Also, the only way I could keep zero tension on the NDS while initially tensioning the DS was by having the NDS nipples backed off a really long way, meaning when it came to tension there wasn’t enough thread engagement on that side.
I guess its all about the %age of target tension you get your DS spokes to when bringing them up?